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Linux Is Too Much Hassle

August 15th, 2011 Leave a comment Go to comments


So I have two netbooks one of the first ever ones the Asus eee 700 and a newer Samsung one. The Samsung one is running Windows 7 basic or whatever its called (the lowest of the low version) and the Asus did have some odd version of Linux called Xandros that stopped working but I never bothered with it because I got the newer Samsung since it was time to upgrade.

Anyway I never sell/chuck devices away because i’m weird like that and thought this little Asus might come in handy one day and sure enough a couple of days ago a opportunity for it to get some love after being turned off for a couple of years reared its head.

I am going away on holiday and I was uming and aring about taking the Samsung with me for fear of damage or it getting nicked etc, so i thought i’ll bang Linux on the old Asus that i’m not too fussed about and roll with that for dumping pics on and checking email etc. Should be pretty straight forward i told my self…. haha how naive.

So i knew the little Asus was not a power house so I decided to go for a distribution of Linux call Xubuntu, this is basically a version of Ubuntu for less powerful machines, even better I found one called eeeXubuntu which was created a few years back especially for the Asus netbook I have.

So first thing I had to do was download it and burn it onto a CD, then boot up a PC using the CD (basically runs the operating system without having to install it) and then use that machine to make a USB stick with the OS on to install on the Asus, confused yet? you aint seen nothing yet home boyyy.

I put the CD one of my PCs and:

linux cd load fail

Great start, what does all that mean? i’m sure someone knows. I put it down to a dodgy CD burn and I was right, I reburnt the CD booted again and then followed a process of  creating the USB installer, seconds in and in order to do this we need to load a Linux terminal window and physically punch in commands along the lines of:

...sudo mount eeeXubuntu.iso /cdrom/ -o loop
cd /cdrom/
sudo /cdrom/mkusbinstall.sh --autodetect...

blah blah blah. Long story short this process worked and I put the USB stick into the Asus and turned her on (unintentionally filthy).

Whey it works, we install eeeXubuntu and life is grand, I can now play Mahjonng and shit wheyy… what about YouTube? Movie player to watch some films? not installed or supported, I need to update? ok cool.

So I run the updater so I dont have software etc from 2007 and it ticks away downloading 800 and something files to update to the latest version gusty fire badger 8.09 or some such. Reboot and low and behold the wireless no longer works… but it did the first time. It appears the eeeXubuntu has been shot dead and normal Xubuntu has taken over. This is cool at least I am up to date, i’ll just install the driver for the wireless card, cant be that hard…. ha.

So I Google like I have never Googled before and eventually hit a site that tells me this might work:

...
sudo apt-get install build-essential
wget 'http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz'
tar zxvf madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-current.tar.gz
cd madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6-*
make clean
make
sudo ma..

blah blah blah more typing commands into a console. The above did not work first time because the link mentioned to the file was broken so I had to google again to find the newer one and type that in instead, the newer file name was the same as the old one but of course they added in a few more numbers to make it more of a pain somin like madwiif66456-82374234.78..333/hahafuck you/.beta5.6667.3 3. I realise there is no doubt a way to cut’n'paste into the terminal window but I dont know how and was not gonna waste more time googling.

So that process finished and after a restart the wireless was back up. EXCELSIOR!  well not quite.

catch the pigeonNow the Internet connection is so slow I might as well train a fleet of carrier pigeons to carry data too an from my location. I grin and bare it for a while and decide to do some other tasks like install VLC to watch videos, chrome web browser and flash to watch YouTube etc…. hah all failed chrome error message of no sense and the other two, even using the GUI program installer… coudlent find either of these after ages of head scratching.

Abandoned that and went back to sorting the speed of the Wifi using google… what ensued was a series of forum posts on par with stuff from computer science lectures from my uni days, mixed in with the green code stream from the matrix. At this point I gave up turned the Asus off, put it back on the shelf where its been sat for two years and decided to take my Samsung with me and be extra careful.

The thing is i’m a geek! I know i could sit down for a couple of months maybe more an become a bearded sweaty Linux guru, i have that ability. What i do not have is the time to do that and lead a (somewhat) normal life! I’m sure once you understand what you are doing with something like Linux its great, for most people though…  not worth the hassle.

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  1. David
    August 16th, 2011 at 10:40 | #1

    OK, so a basic knowledge of maths & probability will allow you to deduce who will comment on this post.

    OK so you had fun with the whole USB set-up, but how would you install any other OS on the laptop? Does MS provide USB installers for any version?

    The advantage of a highly tailored distribution for a hardware platform is that it (should) do everything with ease. And after you installed it it did, however the support for the distribution finished when the project became dormant. This is a problem with a very platform specific distribution, perhaps a standard Xubuntu offering might be easier as that is still supported and should manage the network etc…

    All I can say is I have some legacy hardware that you can’t use with the latest versions of windows due to no support which still works with modern Linux distributions.
    Look at apple and removing the “Rosetta” feature in the latest OS X (making people have to buy the latest versions of many applications that they have used for years).
    I’m not saying Linux is better in this sense, I’m saying that these things are problems in all OS/hardware environments. Legacy hardware is always a problem.

    “become a bearded sweaty Linux guru” <- I have known you to be two of these :-p
    I on the other hand believe I am two of those (Note I haven't had a shave lately and work with Linux ;-) ).

  2. admin
    August 16th, 2011 at 11:27 | #2

    Its irrelevant if MS or Apple offer a USB system thats comparing them to Linux, I didnt once do that. What i was getting at was it could be easier to do it that having to type commands into a console, it wasent, their failure at user experience MS and apple dont come into the equasion.

    Yea thats the prob it became dormant which is pretty much as good as useless ongoing.

    I’m sure stuff works on windows and not on linux as visa versa, to be fair its not really all that legacy if its a 3 year old laptop, you’d expect that would be covered in most driver packages. I was getting at how complicated it is to try and rectfy such a problem and even when its sorted, its not sorted owing to performance issues … … = hassle. I’m not saying its not a great OS etc etc i’m saying if you install it and there is a problem its not worth the hassle if ye not a linux pro.

  3. gunja
    August 30th, 2011 at 12:56 | #3

    Weird this story in some ways, as I have been struggling like hell to install windows over USB to a PC (the CD don’t work for some reason with the windows CD I got).
    Faffed round for hours trying to get it to work, and gave up and shoved Vista on. Well this took forever for the updates (over 12 hours of windows updates, on a 50mbit net connection). Eventually got there, but getting latest software, etc is a PAIN in the arse.

    I have installed Linux a few times on the same box, (debian and ubuntu), and boy is it so much quicker and easier, all software kept up to date with apt (ALL software, not just the OS), and it supports my scanner, and webcam (which the latest versions of windows dont (Vista and 7 64bit)!) I am soooo close to dropping Windows 7 on my main PC for debian or ubuntu, but it’s just using Libre/Open Office I’m scared of (not that I do much with them), and getting used to the Gimp instead of Photoshop, otherwise the mail clients integrate better with google (for contacts), and other bits and bobs.

    Yes your experience with old hardware is true, and probably the case, but saying “Linux is too much hassle”, probably needs to be changed to “Linux is too much hassle for older hardware”. Christ I’ve just shoved 2 2.5TB harddrives in a linux box, which some windows versions can’t handle! I would suggest that with newer hardware, linux is actually easier than windows in a lot of cases, and is up2date from install! Getting used to some of the apps (Gimp/Libre office in this case), might take some time, but only cos your used to something else… My dev tools are all available in linux…

    Though after saying all that, when I make the switch I wonder if 2 months later I’ll still be using Linux as my main OS, time will tell!

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